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Emothy ([personal profile] emothy) wrote2007-02-27 12:09 pm

Character Fantasies

So, I was just thinking (because I am NOT WRITING, LJ you fucker) and reading some meta (there's been lots of genderswap meta recently, which is great because next month is genderswap month and it helps me reassure myself that armed with meta I won't write awful fic ;) ), and I was reading a discussion on writing slash vs. writing het (or femmeslash) and whether it changes the way you write at all, or the attitude you bring to the story.


I know from Cyn's point of view, when it's femmeslash she writes a whole lot more porn ;) I think I do too, actually, though I write femmeslash more rarely. (Oh Eve/Gwen, I reread something with you in it last night and I kind of miss you, you know).

Then I read this part;
I know that I definitely wanted to include some aspects of female-embodiment that often get left out in mainstream depictions (e.g. that more than half of all women can't reach orgasm from penetration alone, that rushing into intercourse can be uncomfortable, that reaching orgasm isn't always easy even if you are having smokin' hot sex).


And my mind went off on it's tangent and I was thinking the usual about how I feel sorry for women who seem to have so much trouble having an orgasm (really, I pity you, I do), and other stuff (oh why am I so reluctant to share? Because I don't think you guys wana hear it!) and BASICALLY (this is a basic explanation you say?) I was thinking about fantasies, and how obviously we all discuss them (and WRITE THEM) so often, and yet I haven't really read much fic wherein the characters fantasies are touched upon. I mean deeper than "I want to shag character x so I'm going to imagine that now since we're not doing it". Kinks that maybe they wouldn't even enjoy in action but when fantasizing harmlessly about, become a real turn on.

So, the bottom line is, if I join a fic exchange sometime soon, I won't have the usual trouble of not knowing what to request ;) I want fantasizing! I want characters with some sexual identity that does not revolve around someone else exclusively or who bloody tops and who bottoms.

Switching is best. Equal opportunities are hot.

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I was rereading my friends page (bored! :x) and thought about this again and I didn't hit upon the character fantasies much last time. So you get this ;)

My Yanagi in ZS asked just about everyone who took this one meme - I think it was some interview meme - what their sexual fantasies were. I was so amused by it, and most of the reactions were shocked/scandalized/etc and I think only a few responded with it. I should find the link for you. :D

But that and this got me to thinking. Most of us never give our characters - RP or in fic - that much thought, to figure out sexual fantasies or kinks. And most of those that do go very typical - for instance, taking Niou and Yagyuu's entire switch and putting it into sex and adding nothing else to it. And the bondage thing is old. :/ Not everyone thinks about bondage; there are other kinks out there.

[identity profile] fsop.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Is this where I confess various fantasies of mine that I have no interest in doing in real life but I consider realy hot in my head? ;)

It's such a contrast to think about, and the more I thought about it, the more I couldn't believe how little it's addressed! Especially in fic with established couples, (a lot of Tezuka/Fuji is set in the future with them having been together a long time), though there are references to knowing each other so well after so long and blahblahblah, or references to various sexual exploits in the past, no-one ever discusses fanatsies.

And from what I've heard, men are such sexual creatures. And pretty open to say whatever they want ;)

There is more to sex than just writing it for the sake of porn. Why does no-one go deeper and more interesting? It's like when all the twincest was around and no-one addressed the narcissism. YOU'RE ALL MISSING THE BEST PARTS.

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Sure ;)

That's part of what I was thinking about earlier too. It's amazing it's not addressed more in fics, especially for partners who have been together for a long time. By that point, you'd have shared sexual fantasies and kinks and probably experimented with them. It's part of a healthy sex life, which I'm sure they all have! ;)

And yes, definitely more to sex than writing it just for porn! Even if you don't get to writing the sex, talking about fantasies themselves can open up a lot of things. Does anyone ever think about what the kinks show about the characters? asjkfsljfsajf

this really kind of makes me want to write a fic about fantasies. :x

[identity profile] fsop.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
DO EET ;)

I'll try and help!

Or rp that discussion with someone; between two people it'd be even better ;)

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
If I can get you to help it will be better ;)

afslfkfk RPING IT WOULD BE AWESOME! :x I mean, two minds, two different characters, forced to think of it in different ways. Oh yes, very fun. :D I need to find someone willing to RP that with me ;)

[identity profile] fsop.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
WHICH CHARACTERS THOUGH?

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man, so many would work! Fuji, with Tezuka or Inui or Yukimura, or Inui asking just about anyone, or Yanagi, or Mizuki, or Yukimura. Sanada and Tezuka would be the types roped into it, not the ones to come out and ask directly, I think.

But really, I'd want to do it between a couple like Tezuka and Fuji or Sanada and Yukimura or maybe between Fuji and Yukimura, meeting for lunch and discussing that ;).

[identity profile] fsop.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
You're saying these things on purpose to tempt me ;)

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
*coughs* Me? Say something like that to tempt you?

You're speaking nonsense, I say. I'm innocent of all accusations. ;)

[identity profile] fsop.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
HA excuse me, that was me choking out both a cough and a laugh in DISBELIEF.

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
What, you don't believe me? :p I am so hurt!

*temptstemptstempts*

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
On another note, who can you see that conversation taking place between? ;)

[identity profile] fsop.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
I think you already know I agree with you :P

[identity profile] vacivity.livejournal.com 2007-02-28 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
I know ;)